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Why is your sig,demeaning,a Jesus son of God,holding a sniper
to kill someone,when the commandments say"thou shall not kill".

GDC|Delling|SD wrote:

Why is your sig,demeaning,a Jesus son of God,holding a sniper
to kill someone,when the commandments say"thou shall not kill".

Who says jesus is the son of God? The church says that, to let christian people
have a personality (next of God) to believe in.


commandments say"thou shall not kill": Wrong. remember the crusades?
You know who started those? Yep, the popes self. They convinced the
medieval people with cruel lies about the islam (like in our time) and made
knights, and even normal people, murder thousands of innocent islamithic people, only to make the might of te church bigger.

so, "thou shall not kill" is a command that you shouldnt take too surious.

you should
the crusade and the conquistadors are both huge mistakes. people desecrated the name of Christianity and used religion for their own personal gain

Yup. But without religion, we wouldnt be here to write this.
religion is the root for civilisation.

not really
civilisation would work without religion. HUMANITY, however, cannot exist without have a spiritual side to it, because too many people put much strength in spirituality.

if civilisation can work without religion, then give me an example of any ancient civilisation without a relegion.

name me a religion that works without spirituality and i will
look at the romans. there is no spirituality involved with their religion

SirLagALot|HAC*L wrote:

name me a religion that works without spirituality and i will
look at the romans. there is no spirituality involved with their religion

what doyou mean with spirituality? i think spirituality IS religion.

religion is institutionalized spirituality
for example, buddhism and zen teachings fall into a category of pure spirituality. there is no religion, because it's not about buddhists or zen masters and students as a whole, it's about you and your experiences on a spiritual level
catholicism is a religion, there is no genuine spirituality whatsoever, it's just to make you feel good with aesthetic ceremonies etc

i dont mind what your opinions are risingdevil, but i do mind your sig

now say you had something that mocked allah or mohammed in that sig instead of Jesus. i dont think that first would like that, just like i dont like your sig. however first would be able to edit your profile and remove that sig. i cant, if i could i probably would

its just as offensive to me as an old sig of some guy i cant remember whose sig was some guy wanking, crapping and puking all at the same time (it was a cartoon, but you could easily see what was happening) now that kind of sig everybody hates. and nobody wants to see. and i dont want to see your sig OR the sig just mentioned

the point of this clan is to have fun, make friends, and kill people in ET (and, thanks to this board, debate about things, mostly religion), not to put up sigs greatly disrespecting others religions and beliefs.

you didnt see it, but when sirlagalot made an innocent joke about april fools being atheists national holiday, he got massive backlash (and from overmind as well cause he called him an atheist). now if i were to make a sig that said "FUCK OVERMIND" then i would pretty much be kicked out of this clan. in 2 seconds of overmind seeing it

should you get away with your sig just because a supreme isnt a christian? i think not

all in all, the point is, get a new sig

i'll change my nick, but lol, this is not offencive, its a funny cartoon.

when seeing your sig, "jesus christ is lord", lots of people also think its a joke.

btw i am christian, and i dont find my sig offensive

you are a Christian, and yet you don't believe we should take one of the Commandments seriously?

SirLagALot|HAC*L wrote:

you are a Christian, and yet you don't believe we should take one of the Commandments seriously?

yes

i dont believe on the way of the church. The church's "laws and rules" are based on dumb theories
and mass murderings along the centuries.

the current pope has confirmed that by telling people that the condom is
no protection against aids. That is dumb.

SirLagALot|HAC*L wrote:

name me a religion that works without spirituality and i will
look at the romans. there is no spirituality involved with their religion

the aztecs used religion as political system. every choise, move, ... was based
on their religion. It had nothing spiritualy. The so named "Gods" of the aztecs
were strange creatures that came out of the sky in giant bowls of fire, telling them what to do and how to do it. Therefor, the aztecs began to study sience more then relegion. The aztecs began to forget the reigion, and became specialised in sience. The knowledge of the atecs was better then the knowledge of the islamitic countries in the medieval (the biggest knowledge then known in that time).

about their gods: The "strange creatures hat came out of the sky in giant bowls of fire". The aztec calander starts on the year that a planet from an other solar system (the planets name was nibiru or something like that)
passes our solarsystem. Thecalander of the aztecs ends in 2012. The year that that same planet passes our solar system again. If you have seen "Indiana jones and the kingdom of the crystal skull" you will probably understand this better. That story is based on true facts of sience and ancient inscriptions. There are real skulls found in southern america.
(contniues in other reply)

The aztecs babys skulls were being pushed in a certain form. sientist tought they did that to make the aztecs people look like jaguars. But recently, they proved otherwise. The skulls were being formed in another form to let them equals the shape of their "gods" skull. So, A religion that saw their own gods. No spirituality, but supernatural facts. (i did a school project on this subject)
more info: google 21 december 2012

You shouldn't triple post.

yep, exaclty, the aztecs had no spirituality, and yet the had religion, therefore religion and spirituality are NOT the same, contrary to what you said in an earlier post
to be perfectly candid, i think the idea of a pope is stupid and anti-Biblical. catholics believe the pope to be blameless, when the Bible says that only Jesus is blameless, and catholics also worship Mary, which is also against the Bible
personally, i'm non-denominational, and though it's techinically a religion, i don't treat it that way. it's only to fulfill the spiritual part of my life.
but when you're talking about the church, you seem only to be referring to the CATHOLIC church, which isn't really a Christian church at all

Uhm sorry for interupting your debate risingdevil, but can you resize your signature pls.

RooKy

SirLagALot|HAC*L wrote:

yep, exaclty, the aztecs had no spirituality, and yet the had religion, therefore religion and spirituality are NOT the same, contrary to what you said in an earlier post

indeed spirituality and religion are other things. The name says itself: SPIRITuality.
spirituality is the need to statisfy your soul.
religion is a signpost to a way of life.

What you said about boeddism being not a religion, is (in my opinion) either wrong.
its spiritualism for a big part, but there is also religion in it.
in a religion you have a "god/master" who is the perfect example for the tenet of that
religion, or who is just seen as the ruler.
bouddism = boudda
Christianity = God and Jezus
Hinduism = (monotheism) shiva etc
...

Christanity is a monotheistic religion, the only problem is some catholic assholes misused their status to let us now honour the pope and the church as well. That's wrong as the only God is God, and they should only appeal to him.

Part of me here says that the catholic part of christanity is worse than the protestants. Though some of them call theirselfs (I believe) evangelical, which if I understood, is a more orthodox form of the Christendom. Indoctrinating their young children (yes, I saw it at a documentary), it was scary, that's the only word for it.

So for me, both of these sides don't pull me. If either God exists or not, which is a impossible to solve problem, I am not sure I should become christian as the religion is not only about God, but political power.

GDC|risingdevil|PNK wrote:

SirLagALot|HAC*L wrote:

you are a Christian, and yet you don't believe we should take one of the Commandments seriously?

yes

i dont believe on the way of the church. The church's "laws and rules" are based on dumb theories
and mass murderings along the centuries.

the current pope has confirmed that by telling people that the condom is
no protection against aids. That is dumb.

call yourself a christian all you want, but you seem more like somebody who is not a christian. you can call yourself a christian all you want on a government paper, but that dont mean your a good one. if somebody is a good Christian then they would be offended at that picture

if you dont believe in the ways of the church whats the point of even calling yourself a christian. might as well renounce your faith now. just cause somebody calls themself a christian dont mean that they are saved, and the term "once saved always saved" is a load of rubbish.

and sirlagalot didnt say buddhism wasnt a religion, he said that its the closest thing to not being a religion

but hinduism is polytheism, not monotheism. they believe in 50 millions gods for all i know (an exaggeration)

?GDC|Bazooka|HAC wrote:

but hinduism is polytheism, not monotheism. they believe in 50 millions gods for all i know (an exaggeration)

Yeah sorry, that was what i meant. I switched the 2.

Who says i consider myself as a christian? You can believe in God the way
you want. It's called individualism.

firstly, you contradicted yourself when you said that spirituality and religion were the same, back on the first page, but on this page you said they weren't
as for religion, it's not counted as a religion because it has a master to follow, but a religion is a religion because it is INSTITUTIONALIZED. meaning that people rationalize spirituality, add rituals, and stuff like that
spirituality is the unhindered search for enlightenment, or in Christianity's case, a personal relationship with the Lord

GDC|risingdevil|PNK wrote:

?GDC|Bazooka|HAC wrote:

but hinduism is polytheism, not monotheism. they believe in 50 millions gods for all i know (an exaggeration)

Yeah sorry, that was what i meant. I switched the 2.

Who says i consider myself as a christian? You can believe in God the way
you want. It's called individualism.

GDC|risingdevil|PNK wrote:

btw i am christian, and i dont find my sig offensive

well what does this say? this says that you DO consider yourself a christian. seems you keep contradicting yourself from previous posts